Comments for Progressive Libertarianism http://progressivelibertarian.org Common Sense, Consumer Oriented Politics - Finding Practical Solutions to Pressing Issues Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:22:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 Comment on The 1%, Inequality, & Taxes: There is a racket here by Patt http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/07/19/the-1-inequality-taxes-there-is-a-racket-here/comment-page-1/#comment-1892 Patt Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:22:53 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1303#comment-1892 I agree with most all of your points here, and I come from a liberal perspective, maybe even left of liberal. I believe that most thinking people do not believe that we can be "taxed into prosperity". However, we can be taxed out of deficit. As a liberal, I find it upsetting to a degree that we have so much in common, we should be able to find a way to work together. I think that you would find that most of us on the left do not think of stealing from the rich to give to the poor, nor do most of us begrudge the success of someone who creates wealth fairly and honestly. That said, those wealthy people should not be rewarded for their cleverness by paying a lower tax percentage than the rest of us. It makes me furious that companies that make huge profits not only don't pay any taxes, but in addition receive taxpayer monies in subsidies. I like what you have written, and I look forward to coming back to read more about Progressive Libertarianism. I agree with most all of your points here, and I come from a liberal perspective, maybe even left of liberal. I believe that most thinking people do not believe that we can be “taxed into prosperity”. However, we can be taxed out of deficit.

As a liberal, I find it upsetting to a degree that we have so much in common, we should be able to find a way to work together. I think that you would find that most of us on the left do not think of stealing from the rich to give to the poor, nor do most of us begrudge the success of someone who creates wealth fairly and honestly. That said, those wealthy people should not be rewarded for their cleverness by paying a lower tax percentage than the rest of us. It makes me furious that companies that make huge profits not only don’t pay any taxes, but in addition receive taxpayer monies in subsidies.

I like what you have written, and I look forward to coming back to read more about Progressive Libertarianism.

]]> Comment on Being a libertarian does not simply equate to “leave it all up to the states” by silent http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/10/18/being-a-libertarian-does-not-simply-equate-to-leave-it-all-up-to-the-states/comment-page-1/#comment-1353 silent Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:40:12 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1439#comment-1353 I like it. The 'constitutionalists' parts could be cut, but it's otherwise great :) I like it. The ‘constitutionalists’ parts could be cut, but it’s otherwise great :)

]]> Comment on Libertarian Drug Legacy by Drew Chovanec http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/07/11/libertarian-legacy-of-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-1314 Drew Chovanec Thu, 04 Oct 2012 11:51:46 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1240#comment-1314 People will always fill their confirmation bias first. If someone is not with, or is against any group, they will immediately cling to the first idea that they wish to associate with that group in order to(at least in our minds) lessen the feeling of being threatened on equal ground. Thus, through this natural defense mechanism we all have, some see Republicans as dumb rednecks, Democrats as leftist pansies, and Libertarians as Stoned Slackers. This is why quality education is so important, so that we may understand this and control ourselves in an increasingly diverse society. People will always fill their confirmation bias first. If someone is not with, or is against any group, they will immediately cling to the first idea that they wish to associate with that group in order to(at least in our minds) lessen the feeling of being threatened on equal ground. Thus, through this natural defense mechanism we all have, some see Republicans as dumb rednecks, Democrats as leftist pansies, and Libertarians as Stoned Slackers. This is why quality education is so important, so that we may understand this and control ourselves in an increasingly diverse society.

]]> Comment on That ‘wasted vote’ could build the foundation of a political movement by Dave http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/09/05/that-wasted-vote-could-build-the-foundation-of-a-political-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-1172 Dave Sat, 15 Sep 2012 00:14:04 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1413#comment-1172 A group of us have been working across party lines to help get Gary Johnson and other qualified candidates into the presidential debates. Please visit http://openupthedebates.org/ , sign the petition and tell your friends. Thank you. A group of us have been working across party lines to help get Gary Johnson and other qualified candidates into the presidential debates. Please visit http://openupthedebates.org/ , sign the petition and tell your friends. Thank you.

]]> Comment on Living in a gun society: Have you thought about this? by Frank http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/08/28/living-in-a-gun-society/comment-page-1/#comment-1156 Frank Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:44:17 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1400#comment-1156 Also - "None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army. To keep ours armed and disciplined is therefore at all times important." - Thomas Jefferson Also –

“None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army. To keep ours armed and disciplined is therefore at all times important.”

- Thomas Jefferson

]]> Comment on Living in a gun society: Have you thought about this? by Frank http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/08/28/living-in-a-gun-society/comment-page-1/#comment-1155 Frank Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:39:48 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1400#comment-1155 "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government" -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government”

– Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

]]> Comment on That ‘wasted vote’ could build the foundation of a political movement by Matthew Reece http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/09/05/that-wasted-vote-could-build-the-foundation-of-a-political-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-1114 Matthew Reece Sun, 09 Sep 2012 13:03:26 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1413#comment-1114 I gave the wasted vote theory a pretty solid debunking: http://www.examiner.com/article/arguments-against-third-parties-and-how-to-counter-them I gave the wasted vote theory a pretty solid debunking: http://www.examiner.com/article/arguments-against-third-parties-and-how-to-counter-them

]]> Comment on That ‘wasted vote’ could build the foundation of a political movement by Dawn http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/09/05/that-wasted-vote-could-build-the-foundation-of-a-political-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-1113 Dawn Sun, 09 Sep 2012 12:54:42 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1413#comment-1113 DONE! I just emailed all of them. DONE! I just emailed all of them.

]]> Comment on That ‘wasted vote’ could build the foundation of a political movement by George Whitfield http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/09/05/that-wasted-vote-could-build-the-foundation-of-a-political-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-1107 George Whitfield Sun, 09 Sep 2012 09:01:11 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1413#comment-1107 Invest in your children's and your grand children's future. Start laying the foundation for a competitive alternative to the status quo Democrats and Republicans. Vote for Gary Johnson for President. Live free and give a wonderful gift to your family in the future by doing something bold now. Invest in your children’s and your grand children’s future. Start laying the foundation for a competitive alternative to the status quo Democrats and Republicans. Vote for Gary Johnson for President. Live free and give a wonderful gift to your family in the future by doing something bold now.

]]> Comment on That ‘wasted vote’ could build the foundation of a political movement by Lynn http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/09/05/that-wasted-vote-could-build-the-foundation-of-a-political-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-1106 Lynn Sun, 09 Sep 2012 08:28:14 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1413#comment-1106 Just exactly the way I see it. Thanks for writing this. Just exactly the way I see it. Thanks for writing this.

]]> Comment on That ‘wasted vote’ could build the foundation of a political movement by Susan http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/09/05/that-wasted-vote-could-build-the-foundation-of-a-political-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-1100 Susan Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:16:06 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1413#comment-1100 I hear you, and I agree, for the most part. Here's my problem. We are not the majority. There are people who have one issue....like abortion. There are people who are all about most of what "we" talk about, except for foreign policy. There are people who want the things that they perceive will benefit them, whether that be social security, the Department of Education, or welfare, and any talk of liberty must include maintaining those things. I am feeling like my "look to the horizon" has to be primarily in the education of the electorate, knowing full well that I am running against a clock. As I preach about liberty, people are getting used to a government that works counter to this argument. And now I'm sad. I hope I'm wrong. I hear you, and I agree, for the most part. Here’s my problem. We are not the majority. There are people who have one issue….like abortion. There are people who are all about most of what “we” talk about, except for foreign policy. There are people who want the things that they perceive will benefit them, whether that be social security, the Department of Education, or welfare, and any talk of liberty must include maintaining those things. I am feeling like my “look to the horizon” has to be primarily in the education of the electorate, knowing full well that I am running against a clock. As I preach about liberty, people are getting used to a government that works counter to this argument. And now I’m sad. I hope I’m wrong.

]]> Comment on That ‘wasted vote’ could build the foundation of a political movement by Jeremy http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/09/05/that-wasted-vote-could-build-the-foundation-of-a-political-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-1075 Jeremy Fri, 07 Sep 2012 12:42:22 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1413#comment-1075 I don't believe in the wasted vote argument. I vote for the person who matches my views the closest out of ALL the candidates running. Since elections are setup more like straw polls where the voters basically "recommend" a candidate and the delegates actually ELECT them, then elections are basically opinion polls. If you were taking an online poll where you were answering a multiple choice question, you wouldn't feel like your "opinion" was wasted because it's not the top 2 answer choices... I don’t believe in the wasted vote argument. I vote for the person who matches my views the closest out of ALL the candidates running. Since elections are setup more like straw polls where the voters basically “recommend” a candidate and the delegates actually ELECT them, then elections are basically opinion polls.

If you were taking an online poll where you were answering a multiple choice question, you wouldn’t feel like your “opinion” was wasted because it’s not the top 2 answer choices…

]]> Comment on That ‘wasted vote’ could build the foundation of a political movement by Andrew http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/09/05/that-wasted-vote-could-build-the-foundation-of-a-political-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-1066 Andrew Fri, 07 Sep 2012 05:28:00 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1413#comment-1066 I've never understood the 'wasted vote' argument. Do people really believe they can pick who the next president will be? I’ve never understood the ‘wasted vote’ argument. Do people really believe they can pick who the next president will be?

]]> Comment on Living in a gun society: Have you thought about this? by Dave Peterson http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/08/28/living-in-a-gun-society/comment-page-1/#comment-966 Dave Peterson Wed, 29 Aug 2012 01:30:22 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1400#comment-966 Tench Coxe, a prominent American political economist of the day (1755–1824) who attended the earlier constitutional convention in Annapolis, explained (in the Pennsylvania Federal Gazette on June 18, 1789) the founders' definition of who the militia was intended to be and their inherent distrust of standing armies under the direct control of 'civil rulers' when he wrote: The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American ...the unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people. The militia, who are in fact the effective part of the people at large, will render many troops quite unnecessary. They will form a powerful check upon the regular troops, and will generally be sufficient to over-awe them. Whereas civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as military forces, which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms. Tench Coxe, a prominent American political economist of the day (1755–1824) who attended the earlier constitutional convention in Annapolis, explained (in the Pennsylvania Federal Gazette on June 18, 1789) the founders’ definition of who the militia was intended to be and their inherent distrust of standing armies under the direct control of ‘civil rulers’ when he wrote:
The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American …the unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.
The militia, who are in fact the effective part of the people at large, will render many troops quite unnecessary. They will form a powerful check upon the regular troops, and will generally be sufficient to over-awe them.
Whereas civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as military forces, which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.

]]> Comment on Ron Paul got you confused? by DavePrice http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/02/16/ron-paul-got-you-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-965 DavePrice Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:09:33 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1040#comment-965 Many of us Americans first see his is GOP and dont look no further, you dont play with Romney and Bush and pretend you dont stink of the GOP party. The GOP sold out to the 1% decades before the Dems went all in with Obama. Paul went back to the GOP because the " Free Speech" is greatest to those that will deliver the 1% most.. and what the GOP deliver is death to the middle class and anyone trying to put a GOP in office is nobody i can respect. Ron Paul had one of the Koch Brothers as a running mate in 1980.... the Kochtopus? google it, it is the face of the guilty ones for the killing of middle class, this is YOUR party.. this is the GOP. Many of us Americans first see his is GOP and dont look no further, you dont play with Romney and Bush and pretend you dont stink of the GOP party. The GOP sold out to the 1% decades before the Dems went all in with Obama. Paul went back to the GOP because the ” Free Speech” is greatest to those that will deliver the 1% most.. and what the GOP deliver is death to the middle class and anyone trying to put a GOP in office is nobody i can respect. Ron Paul had one of the Koch Brothers as a running mate in 1980…. the Kochtopus? google it, it is the face of the guilty ones for the killing of middle class, this is YOUR party.. this is the GOP.

]]> Comment on It’s OK to be wrong by Chris http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/07/12/its-ok-to-be-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-889 Chris Sun, 12 Aug 2012 06:31:51 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1246#comment-889 Great read, sir. I agree with you whole-heartedly and I think the biggest purveyor of the "I can do/say no wrong" stance, aside from politicians, is the religious community. It would seem they enjoy double downing as you say on their beliefs when confronted with counter evidence. Anyways, I enjoyed the post and thought you should know. Great read, sir. I agree with you whole-heartedly and I think the biggest purveyor of the “I can do/say no wrong” stance, aside from politicians, is the religious community. It would seem they enjoy double downing as you say on their beliefs when confronted with counter evidence. Anyways, I enjoyed the post and thought you should know.

]]> Comment on Discrimination: How you can and can’t do it by Paul VanGogh http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/07/22/discrimination-how-you-can-cant-do-it/comment-page-1/#comment-882 Paul VanGogh Tue, 31 Jul 2012 23:16:56 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1327#comment-882 I really think it is not true: discriminate if U don't take Feb $. What was that about lunch counters and Montgomery Ala.? I'd guess that SOME kinds of retail businesses.... What about a public utility which happens not to receive Fed $? (Utilities are a quaisi-monopoly.) I really think it is not true: discriminate if U don’t take Feb $.

What was that about lunch counters and Montgomery Ala.? I’d guess that SOME kinds of retail businesses…. What about a public utility which happens not to receive Fed $? (Utilities are a quaisi-monopoly.)

]]> Comment on Five Reasons I am No Longer a Democrat by Joe http://progressivelibertarian.org/2011/07/14/five-reasons-i-am-no-longer-a-democrat/comment-page-1/#comment-876 Joe Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:22:22 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=523#comment-876 Great article. I especially like points 2 & 4. I get so annoyed at the lack of anger from liberals and Democrats about Obama essentially continuing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and doubling down on civil liberties abuses relative to the Bush administration. Too many people protest parties and not actions. If a Republican does it, it's evil, if Obama does it, well, he's our guy, so he must have a good reason. It's bullshit. The reality is Gitmo is still open, wars continue on, drones are targeting terrorists and citizens alike, Obama's approved the ability of the US gov't to assassinate a US citizen without due process, etc, etc, etc. YET - the people who hung Bush in effigy from 2003-2008 are ridiculously silent. AND those same people will accuse small gov't types of racism because they didn't protest Bush's liberal spending record while he was in office. It's sickening. Great article. I especially like points 2 & 4. I get so annoyed at the lack of anger from liberals and Democrats about Obama essentially continuing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and doubling down on civil liberties abuses relative to the Bush administration. Too many people protest parties and not actions. If a Republican does it, it’s evil, if Obama does it, well, he’s our guy, so he must have a good reason. It’s bullshit. The reality is Gitmo is still open, wars continue on, drones are targeting terrorists and citizens alike, Obama’s approved the ability of the US gov’t to assassinate a US citizen without due process, etc, etc, etc. YET – the people who hung Bush in effigy from 2003-2008 are ridiculously silent. AND those same people will accuse small gov’t types of racism because they didn’t protest Bush’s liberal spending record while he was in office. It’s sickening.

]]> Comment on We’re More than Community and Infrastructure by Dere http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/07/26/were-more-than-community-and-infrastructure/comment-page-1/#comment-875 Dere Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:24:35 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1339#comment-875 Well written ma'am. I salute you for your clear thinking. Well written ma’am. I salute you for your clear thinking.

]]> Comment on Why Gold and Silver are not for me by twh http://progressivelibertarian.org/2011/07/16/why-gold-and-silver-are-not-for-me/comment-page-1/#comment-874 twh Thu, 26 Jul 2012 14:15:50 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=551#comment-874 <a href="#comment-288" rel="nofollow">@Anonymous </a> Wow...you actually capitalized "The Collapse." @Anonymous

Wow…you actually capitalized “The Collapse.”

]]> Comment on Why Gold and Silver are not for me by anthony http://progressivelibertarian.org/2011/07/16/why-gold-and-silver-are-not-for-me/comment-page-1/#comment-873 anthony Thu, 26 Jul 2012 14:04:54 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=551#comment-873 "Why would anyone want gold or silver after The Collapse anyway?" I think you're being way to short sightd, if the collapse happened tommorow, do you really believe stabilty would never happen again in our lifetimes" Also, how about not necessaruly COLLASPE but in times of inflation? so if the dollar became 30% less valued, your gold would raise more then 30% because the inflation would raise demand Also,You've got to diversify, food water all that is good, however if you are rich you can only go so far before it becomes silly, once you hit that point, what is there to invest in? People insult me for investing in 401k becaues they believe the economy would collaspe, however read up on the great depression, a lot of the people that commited suicide,, if they would'e held on their stock actually IMPROVED long term.. I don't have the money to really diversify, but if I did I would, game theory to the fullest. “Why would anyone want gold or silver after The Collapse anyway?”

I think you’re being way to short sightd, if the collapse happened tommorow, do you really believe stabilty would never happen again in our lifetimes”

Also, how about not necessaruly COLLASPE but in times of inflation? so if the dollar became 30% less valued, your gold would raise more then 30% because the inflation would raise demand

Also,You’ve got to diversify, food water all that is good, however if you are rich you can only go so far before it becomes silly, once you hit that point, what is there to invest in?

People insult me for investing in 401k becaues they believe the economy would collaspe, however read up on the great depression, a lot of the people that commited suicide,, if they would’e held on their stock actually IMPROVED long term..

I don’t have the money to really diversify, but if I did I would, game theory to the fullest.

]]> Comment on Best Constitutional Amendment That Fell Short by silent http://progressivelibertarian.org/2011/07/17/best-constitutional-amendment-that-fell-short/comment-page-1/#comment-872 silent Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:06:57 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=576#comment-872 I thought that McCain had co-sponsored a failed Campaign Finance Reform Amendment, but the details are a bit fuzzy now. I thought that McCain had co-sponsored a failed Campaign Finance Reform Amendment, but the details are a bit fuzzy now.

]]> Comment on Discrimination: How you can and can’t do it by RickRussellTX http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/07/22/discrimination-how-you-can-cant-do-it/comment-page-1/#comment-871 RickRussellTX Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:45:41 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1327#comment-871 > If an organization receives zero public funding, they can discriminate all day against anyone for any reason. That's not true. We can certainly ask whether this "should be" true; Ron Paul is often attacked because he feels that this level of protection should not be mandated at the federal level. > If an organization receives zero public funding, they can discriminate all day against anyone for any reason.

That’s not true.

We can certainly ask whether this “should be” true; Ron Paul is often attacked because he feels that this level of protection should not be mandated at the federal level.

]]> Comment on Almost everything you ever wanted to know about Mitt Romney by Carp http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/07/16/almost-everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-mitt-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-867 Carp Wed, 18 Jul 2012 18:26:48 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1257#comment-867 Thank you for posting! Thank you for posting!

]]> Comment on It’s OK to be wrong by Joey http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/07/12/its-ok-to-be-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-857 Joey Fri, 13 Jul 2012 00:01:28 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1246#comment-857 I couldn't agree with you more. I've been saying this for awhile, now. Something that I would add--which naturally goes along with this ability to admit the error of one's ways or ideas--is humility. We do not have enough humility in our society. I couldn’t agree with you more. I’ve been saying this for awhile, now. Something that I would add–which naturally goes along with this ability to admit the error of one’s ways or ideas–is humility. We do not have enough humility in our society.

]]> Comment on Libertarian Drug Legacy by Blair Sadewitz http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/07/11/libertarian-legacy-of-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-836 Blair Sadewitz Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:43:46 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1240#comment-836 Drugs are neither "good" nor "bad", and more quantifiable harm is done by cigarettes and alcohol than all other "illicit" drugs combined many times over. It is far healthier for a person to take a moderate dose of pharmaceutical heroin orally than it is to go on a bender with alcohol--ask a pharmacologist. Every drug that a rational person would want to take is illegal or subject to drug law. Alcohol is an outlier due to tradition, but at least during prohibition they picked one of the lousiest drugs to outlaw. Why does everyone--including people who seem to have coherent principles such as your self--act as if this is about marijuana? Marijuana isn't even a drug--it's a plant. Is beer a drug? No, alcohol is a drug. Drugs are neither “good” nor “bad”, and more quantifiable harm is done by cigarettes and alcohol than all other “illicit” drugs combined many times over.

It is far healthier for a person to take a moderate dose of pharmaceutical heroin orally than it is to go on a bender with alcohol–ask a pharmacologist. Every drug that a rational person would want to take is illegal or subject to drug law. Alcohol is an outlier due to tradition, but at least during prohibition they picked one of the lousiest drugs to outlaw.

Why does everyone–including people who seem to have coherent principles such as your self–act as if this is about marijuana? Marijuana isn’t even a drug–it’s a plant. Is beer a drug? No, alcohol is a drug.

]]> Comment on So I have hate mail…. by Van Helsing http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/07/05/so-i-have-hate-mail/comment-page-2/#comment-808 Van Helsing Mon, 09 Jul 2012 01:21:38 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1217#comment-808 Cool story, bro. Cool story, bro.

]]> Comment on So I have hate mail…. by Skizyr http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/07/05/so-i-have-hate-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-807 Skizyr Sun, 08 Jul 2012 23:08:43 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1217#comment-807 Poisoning the well may work for you when talking to most people, but it won't get you very far with me. Let's just agree that you wouldn't know what to do with any community and leave it at that. The rest of your drivel has already been spat upon this page numerous times, and it's obvious you aren't open to discussion since you simply ignore one side's gross incompetence at framing an argument. My dreams are your reality, Mr. Puppet. Poisoning the well may work for you when talking to most people, but it won’t get you very far with me. Let’s just agree that you wouldn’t know what to do with any community and leave it at that. The rest of your drivel has already been spat upon this page numerous times, and it’s obvious you aren’t open to discussion since you simply ignore one side’s gross incompetence at framing an argument.

My dreams are your reality, Mr. Puppet.

]]> Comment on So I have hate mail…. by Van Helsing http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/07/05/so-i-have-hate-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-806 Van Helsing Sun, 08 Jul 2012 19:19:26 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1217#comment-806 Skizyr - I wouldn't know what to do with a "self-sustaining" vampire wannabe community. Probably because lying about being a vampire in order to get gothic posers to give me donations doesn't really interest me. If the time that M. Turner spent developing and maintaining these communities were instead spent on, I dunno... getting and keeping a job, she might have had health insurance like the rest of us. Bad priorities in life and bad decisions should be owned by the person keeping them and making them, not by everyone else. Jealousy indeed. Keep dreaming. Skizyr -

I wouldn’t know what to do with a “self-sustaining” vampire wannabe community. Probably because lying about being a vampire in order to get gothic posers to give me donations doesn’t really interest me. If the time that M. Turner spent developing and maintaining these communities were instead spent on, I dunno… getting and keeping a job, she might have had health insurance like the rest of us. Bad priorities in life and bad decisions should be owned by the person keeping them and making them, not by everyone else.

Jealousy indeed. Keep dreaming.

]]> Comment on So I have hate mail…. by Van Helsing http://progressivelibertarian.org/2012/07/05/so-i-have-hate-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-805 Van Helsing Sun, 08 Jul 2012 19:14:24 +0000 http://progressivelibertarian.org/?p=1217#comment-805 I agree that Susan Cassidy's post is politically framed. M. Turner's posts and replies have not been. I agree that Susan Cassidy’s post is politically framed. M. Turner’s posts and replies have not been.

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